Hi, The raw orders for the August II 1097 turn follow. The Random Events will be along in a following die roll email... *Fatimid Caliphate(FC) Cair/010 al-Afdal/4P2 Move 0329-0428-0427-0527-0626-Tani Cair/005 Defend 0826/000 Iftikhar/2T1 Move Pelu Alex/005 Emir#1/1T1 N/A Alex/002 1Fleet Move and Transport Emir#1, 5 SP, and 10B 0224-0324-0424-0524-0624-0725-0825-Pelu Dami/005 Emir#2/1T1 N/A Dami/002 1Fleet Move and Transport Emir#2, 5 SP, and 10B 0725-0825-0925-1025-1125-1224-1324-1423-1422- 1421-Caes Pelu/005 Defend Pelu/002 1Fleet N/A *Syrians - Ridwan(SR) Random Events Orders: Treachery (#5) - To Ridwan leader Reinforcemnts (#1) - Antioch Assassination (#13) - Do Nothing Plauge - If in Edessa, take from Armenian SP's first when possible. Bribes: None Movement: Move #1) Tarsus with 5 (Armenian SP's) and 0 Bezants from Edessa to Birejuk (city) Move #2) Hamah leader with 0 SP's and 0 Bezants from Latakia / 1910 / 1909 / 2008 / River / Harenc (city) Defend with all other units. Random Events:- No extra orders received, using orders above *Syrians - Duqaq(SD) From 1524: Ilghazi, 9SP, FldTrs #2 (5Bz), move into Ascalon and drop off 5 SP; the remaining 4 SP (with Ilghazi and the FT) then moves into Jaffa and remains there. From 1823: Soqman and 2 SP; move to 1824, to 1725, into Hebron (where the 2 SP are dropped off and remain), as Soqman (alone) continues moving to 1824 to 1823 and back into Jerusalem. [Note here: while the general rule says Attrition is measured at the end of the move, using the entire # of AttPts, it does not apply here to those "accumulated" by Soqman, as leaders do not incur AttPts.] In 1823: 14 SP Defends (and keeps an eye on the shekels . . .) From 1818: Toghetkin, 5 SP, and FT#1 with 5 Bz), moves to 1718, to 1618, to 1619, to 1620, to 1521, thence into Caesaria. It will not avoid combat. The remaining units stand and Defend. *Mosul Turks(MT) HASAN - Move - 9SP + 5Bz - 1802 / 1803 / 1904 / 2004 - 9 attrition points - no loses EMIR OF TARSUS - Move - 5Sp + 10Bz - 1704 / 1604 / 1605 / 1506 / Tarsus - 6 attrition points - no loses BALDUK - Move - 10SP + 0Bz - 2303 / 2402 / 2503 / Samosata - 6 attrition points - no loses SAMOSATA - 5SP - Defend GABAN - 1SP - Hold TARSUS - 5SP - Defend BRIBES - Emir of Tarsus will attempt to Bribe Oshin of Lampron with 5Bz. If successful: OSHIN - Move - 5SP + 2Bz - 1405 / 1505 / 1604 - no attrition - no losses *Northern Franks and Normans(NF) PASSWORD: ecotage *PRIOR TO THE TURN -alliances are formed/dissolved[PGM3.3] No orders -ransoms are paid and Leaders returned[9.86] No orders -assignment of Butimedes[22.13] No orders *BRIBERY PHASE Bribe Oshin(Lampron) with 5 Bezants *MOVEMENT PHASE Order:Move 1104/011 Robert(Flndrs)/4P3 1104/002 Stephen/2S2 1104/005 Walter/1T2 1104/006 Girard/1T1 1104/006 Hugh(Pol)/3S2 1104/004 Everard/1T1 1104/003 Caro/1T1 1104/004 Ralph/1T1 1104/003 Guerin/1T1 1104/003 Arnulf/(1)T1B 1104/003 Aubrey/1T1 1104/003 Ivo/1T1 1104/002 Hugh(Vmdos)/1T1 1104/002 Drogo/1T1 --- 057 Hexes:1203,1304,1403,1503,1504=5MPs Attrition:4x2+3=11, 3SPs lost, pay 15 bezants (or whatever is needed) Order:Move 0401/007 Robert(Nrmndy)/3P4 0401/001 Arnulf/1T1 0401/001 Clrmbald/1T1 0401/001 William/1T1 --- 9 Hexes:=0502,0602,0703=3MPs Attrition:3x2=6, no SPs lost Order:Move 0401/001 William/1T1 --- 1 Hexes:0301,0201,0101,Philomenium=4MPs Attrition:3x2=6, no SPs lost Order:Move (with intent to siege) Lamp/005 Oshin/0T1 Hexes:1405,1506=3MPs *COMBAT PHASE No orders *SIEGE PHASE No orders Random Events orders:- Password: cabbage Deny Vision *Sicilian Normans(SN) All my forces, 35 points, move 1006, 1107, 1207 and I take possession of Seleucia. This is done in one of two ways depending on the rules interpretations. In the case where two forces both try to take possession of a city either the commander with the highest Guile rating + roll takes control of the city. This leaves two interpretations. 1. The commander in charge of the stack that moves into the hex is the rolling commander. or 2. Only the commander of the unit which actually enters the city is the rolling cammander. If case 1 prevails William of Grdsmenal moves into Seleucia and have Behemend roll if multiple forces move in. If case 2 prevails Behemend himself moves into Seleucia leaving Tancred in charge of the troops outside. Behemend brings William and Roger with him for a total of 5 points inside and 30 outside. This force would have moved through two barren and one variable hex for 8 attrition points and a loss of 1 point. I pay the 5 bezants to salvage this unit. Random events:- No orders received, default is to Deny Vision *Germans(GE) 0904/007 Godfrey/5P3 0904/002 Eustace/3S2 0904/006 Henry/1T1 0904/004 Warner/1T1 0904/004 Dudo/1T1 0904/003 Conon/1T1 0904/003 Peter/1T1 (29 Points) Orders: Move taking treasury: 1004,1104,1203,1304 8 attrition, 1 loss, spend 5 Bezants. 1005/005 Baldwin(Boulogne)/3S4 (5 points) Orders: Take the treasury and move: 1006, 1107, 1207, 1307, 1406 14 attrition, 1 loss, spend 5 Bezants 1005/002 Baldwin(Hainault)/2T3 1005/003 Rainald/1T2 (5 Points) Orders: 1006, 1107, 1207, enter Seleucia 8 attrition, no losses 0502/002 Baldwin(Bourg)/1T1 (2 Points) Orders: Move: 0602,0703,0803, enter Iconium 6 attrition, 0 losses. Icon/001 Otto/(1)T1B (1 Point) Orders: None. Random Event orders:- Baldwin de Bologne will try to assasinate Duquk the Syrian *Southern Franks(SF) No bribery Movement Order for Raymond of Toulouse, starting at 1004 with all SF units Enter hexes ... 1104, 1203, 1304, 1403, 1503 for a total of 10 attrition points This would cause 2 SPs, but this loss is prevented by spending 10 bexants from the field treasury